geico, see how much you could save. jon: ten years after operation shock and awe began the iraq war, we are discussing the aftermath of that war and how it's being covered in the media with cal thomas, a syndicated columnist, and marvin kalb, former diplomatic correspondent and former moderator for "meet the press," both fox news contributors. marvin, you were saying, you know, the kind of money and investment that was poured into germany and japan -- marvin, apparently, is not hearing my questions, so i'll toss this one to cal, and then we'll get back to marvin in just a second. the kind of money we poured into germany and japan, cal, if americans were still in iraq trying to build, you know, some kind of a government there, i mean, i remember the heat that paul bremer took when the coalition provisional authority was there, and everybody said, you know, give it to the iraqi, met them do it themselves. would the media tolerate that? >> well, look, jon, there's a different history here when you talk about japan and germ